Episode 145: The Power of Self-Care for Entrepreneurs: Practical Tips to Recharge, Reset, and Prevent Burnout – Transcript

In this episode, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Nekeshia Hammond, a leading mental wellness expert and leadership coach, to explore how business owners and high performers can prevent burnout and reclaim balance. Dr. Nekeshia shares practical self-care strategies, emphasizing the power of small, consistent steps to build sustainable habits that support mental, emotional, and physical well-being. Together, they challenge the toxic “hustle culture” and highlight why prioritizing self-care is essential, not optional. If you’re feeling overwhelmed or exhausted, this episode offers empowering tools to reset your energy, prevent burnout, and lead a more fulfilling, balanced life and business.

Transcript

Jennifer: Hey, hey, a brand-new episode of the Happy Productive Podcast is about to begin. It’s time to be inspired by simple and actionable solutions for you and your business. If you’re an established entrepreneur, or just laying down the first brick of your future empire, the mantra is the same. We will flip any failure into a positive and use it to our advantage.  This show is all about turning coal into diamonds. With the right plan and mindset, anything is possible.

I’m Jennifer Dawn, your host, business coach and founder of Best Planner Ever. And I’m here to help you achieve all your ambitious goals. Success is closer than you think. Let’s do this.

Hey, hey, everybody, welcome to a new episode of the Happy Productive Podcast. I’m so excited to talk to my guest today, Dr. Hammond, welcome to the show.

Dr. Hammond: Thank you. Happy to be here.

Jennifer: Absolutely. So, Dr. Hammond is a distinguished psychologist, executive coach and founder of Hammond Psychology and Associates. She’s also the creator and host of the well-received show Mental Health Moment.

I think I most days have many mental health moments as I go through my day. Known for her expertise in mental health, burnout prevention and leadership development. She engages as an international speaker and is an Amazon International best-selling author. So welcome, welcome, welcome to the show today.

Dr. Hammond: Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me.

Jennifer: Yeah, absolutely. It’s so funny. Like I love I love my podcast because it runs in parallel many times with things that are going on in my life and I’m not kidding. I’m not exaggerating when I say it was today is a Tuesday, you guys were recording on a Tuesday. And it was this weekend that I was saying to myself, because I was having a little discussion because I coach myself all the time and I was just like, Jennifer, oh, no, no, here’s what happened. So, me and my son, Adam, we were out doing a Spartan race on Saturday, and we’re on the mountain. And we were both talking about how when we get super busy, he’s 21, almost 22. And he’s a student at UPenn. And so very, very, very demanding for all the things he’s doing.

And so we’re on the mountain, and we were both talking and we were like, you know, when we both get really busy, I was like, the first thing to go is my workout as I’m huffing to get up this mountain like, oh, my God, I am not as fit as I want to be on this stupid Spartan race and he was like, Mom, because he has an internship in a place in the city and he just had a crazy week and he was like, yeah, the first thing to go is the gym and we were talking about this and I was like, we need to do better about like, not sacrificing like the one thing for personal care.

That’s so important for both of us in you know, my demanding career, his demanding career he’s building. And it was just really like, wow, like, we need to stop I need to stop doing this, like no more, the personal care goes first and so then of course, here you are today.

I’m gonna talk with us about burnout and I think it’s such a relevant, relevant topic. So, I would love to hear just a little bit of your story of like, how did you come to be doing this work? And then I’m curious, like, was there something in your life that really resonated with you in regards to burnout, and now helping other people not to struggle with this?

Dr. Hammond: Yes, absolutely. And first, I want to say I love your story. That’s, that’s so common for a lot of us that we tend to put a lot of things before our own self-care. And speaking of personal stories, I definitely can relate to that as well. So, I’ve been in the field now 15 years, I started private practice about 15 years ago.

But I will say throughout my own personal journey of understanding how important self-care is, I definitely hit burnout at some points, I was just like what you were describing, I was finding so many excuses to be like, well, if I don’t get that, you know, if I do four hours of sleep, then I have more time to get my work done. If I skip the workout, like I would start to calculate, I was like, if they skip the workout, then I have more time to get something done. Like that was my thought process and I lived like that for a very long time. And it’s not uncommon. But the problem and I will say is it definitely leads to burnout.

When we do that there was a definitely a time in my life many times in my life actually where I did not put myself first, everything else came first. So I have even more empathy for the space that I’m in now, which is teaching burnout prevention to different organizations and corporations, because I definitely know personally what that is like.

But the good news is on the other side of that, on the positive side of that, when you do make yourself your number one priority, and like now I go through, because I’ve trained my brain in a way that I have to reset a lot of times, I’m like, no, no, no, you have to go to the gym, or you know, you have to get sleep or those types of things are like number one priority. So, everything else still gets done. It’s just that the priorities have shifted. So, I definitely and of course, the professional side of it is, as I mentioned before, I have been a psychologist, I’ve been in the mental health field, absolutely love this field.

I love wellness. I love seeing people win. And I’ve worked a lot with the media and a lot of different companies I speak, I have a private practice part of the time that I’m at. So doing a lot of things juggling as well, being a wife and a mom, it’s definitely more beneficial when you get to the other side of putting yourself first and prioritizing yourself.

Jennifer: Yeah, absolutely. And I just realized that you have a Gators helmet behind you and I was I went to Florida State. And I was like, girl, she’s got a Gator helmet there. Did you go to University of Florida?

Dr. Hammond: I did. And you know what, my husband is a seminal. So I will tell him after this interview, (I’ll have to tell him so we’re definitely a house of Biden. And we are we are fanatics in our yeah, in football. So yeah, it’s always interesting every year. Yeah,

Jennifer: yeah. And SEC football is no joke. I live in New York now. Oh my gosh, you’re gonna love this. I live in New York.

And my son, as I mentioned, is at UPenn. So last year, they had a football game.  And it was like parents weekend or something and they had a football game. And I’m like, oh my gosh, I’m so excited. Like, let’s go to the football game and he’s like, Mom, it’s not what you’re expecting. Because I grew up with Florida State football and the rivalries. And these are just huge, huge and I’m like, Oh, he’s just young. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Like, you know, because I’m like, whatever.

We go to the game. It was the lamest football game I’ve ever been to. It was UPenn versus Harvard, they’re playing Harvard and I’m like, oh, that sounds like exciting. Yeah, it’s like nobody in the stands.

Dr. Hammond: Very different. Yeah.

Jennifer: And they did this weird thing where they like threw bread into the stands. I don’t even know what that was about. I just like I’d never seen so many empty seats in a stadium. And I was like, honey, you’re right. I, I’m like, I, I, I felt bad.

I was like, maybe you should go on to a different college because you’re missing out now. He’s doing great. But it was just so funny. So, I love that big rivalry. And I think that’s so funny, because boy, they take it very seriously. Their football is very serious.

Dr. Hammond: Yes, yes, for sure.

Jennifer: Okay, fantastic. Fantastic. Okay. So I’m curious with burnout. Was there a moment where I noticed that like, over this weekend, we have so much power when we make a decision and this weekend, I literally I felt it. I felt that power of just talking with my son, wanting to be a good mom, set a good example for him. And I was just like, no more.

I can’t do this anymore. Like I’m no more. Am I going to the first thing that goes is my personal care? and I felt the power of it when you just make a decision. And when you decide it’s like everything sort of moves, it just like, gets out of the way. And so I’m curious, like, how do you help people, like get to a place where they can make a decision that yields like a positive change that actually lasts over not like, oh, my willpower for two days, and then I’m back off the wagon here. Like, how do we help people to really like, make a decision, make a change in their life that that stands the test of time?

Dr. Hammond: Yeah, yeah, that’s, that’s really great. So a couple of tips on that. One of the things I’m a big believer in advocate for baby steps, because I found as a psychologist that a lot of times when we try to take too many big leaps, we can do that.But like you said, it’s not sustainable. So, you do something huge, like I did this huge self-care thing for the first week or two or three. And then by like, the following month, you’re not sticking to what you wanted to do.

So, I’m a huge fan of baby steps. So, one of the things that I always advocate for people to do, especially if you’re in a space of like, I know I need to do more self-care, I’m trying to shift my mindset is what I call take a minute a day. And this is something I personally did as well, because I used to be in the headspace of like, I don’t have time and I’m so overwhelmed and all those things, which are not true, just have to reprioritize.

But nonetheless, it’s 60 seconds a day that you devote to yourself, you can time yourself with a cell phone and in those 60 seconds, you can take some deep breaths, you can take a walk outside, you can, if you believe in prayer, like whatever it is for you, and those 60 seconds, and what you do over time is you are training your brain to understand that you deserve to reset and recharge and you deserve to take that time for yourself and so now fast forward, I take way more than 60 seconds a day, but I didn’t start out that way.

So that way is a much more sustainable way to do that and it becomes a habit over time and I love the book, I just read, I think it was last year or so, but atomic habits, for example, by James Clear. Yes, I was like, Oh, I was like, that’s everything I’ve been teaching, you know, because, but it really is true. Like as a psychologist, we know just taking those baby steps will help to change your mindset. Because again, when you take the leaps, too many leaps, sometimes it’s not sustainable.

Jennifer: Yeah, and it’s just too much and I know that I tend to set the bar way too high. Like even listening to you talk like 60 seconds a day, I’m like, Oh, I could do that 25 times a day, you know, because I just like tend to like set that bar too high and I love baby steps.

Because that’s worked so well for me to to just like lower the bar and even when I work with clients around their money and their cash flow, I do a lot of work with their cash flow, I always am like, look, we’re not going to be there right on day one. But it’s about setting that habit. I love I love atomic habits, too and it’s about the consistency. It doesn’t matter how long we’re showing up each day, it matters that we show up each day and have that consistency and that baby step that baby step.

So, I love that you mentioned that because even like when you, you know, like, hey, I need to create a habit, or I choose to create a habit of self-care. Sometimes in the beginning, like setting aside, let’s say an hour a day can feel that way too big and like way too much. Like there’s no way I can find an hour.

I love that you said start with one minute because even one minute, that’s pretty hard to argue that you can’t find one minute. In fact, that’s total BS. If you say you can’t find one minute, you’re full of it and you can totally time it. And then if you can do it for one minute, and you can see, oh, look, I did it, I feel better. Everything’s okay. Then you can gradually work your way up.

Dr. Hammond: Yeah, and your body will your mind and body will start to crave that time. Like after a while of doing see that you’re like, oh, that felt really good to stop and take deep breaths or you know, whatever you chose to do in that minute, you’re retraining your brain. So, your brain will expect something different. So, like you said, so it’ll be easier when you decide to move it up to five minutes to 10 minutes, 15 minutes, like, because you’ve trained yourself to think that way and accept that for you. But you deserve that.

Jennifer: Yeah. How do you help people reconcile the guilt that can come up when like I even I feel this sometimes like I go out on my morning walk and I’m out? I’m like, I’m gonna walk for an hour and then I’ll cut it back to like 45 minutes while I’m walking. And then it’s like a half an hour. Because my brain is just like starts to think about my clients think about the things, I want to do for them.

Then I start to feel guilty because it’s just like, ah, like all this time. And it’s a real battle of just like, so how do you reconcile the guilt of I’m not doing something for somebody else right now? Because I’m doing something for myself?

Dr. Hammond: Yep.

Jennifer: How do you help people with that?

Dr. Hammond: Yeah, that’s a great question and oftentimes when I’m working with organizations, that’s actually something that comes up because there may be a team of people who are overachievers they’re high in the corporate space, or they’re like, you know, really strong business leaders, things like that. So it, it can feel overwhelming to do the self-care, because you’re like, wait a minute, I’m not doing my work, or I’m not spending time with family or whatever else that you want to be doing. But the good news is when you really, truly understand how much a commitment to self-care can positively impact you, which is not just for you, it is for the people around you.

So when you become the something I preach all the time, but when you really become the best version of who you are now in your business, or in your organization, or in your family life, or wherever it is that you have to show up in, you are going to be a better version of yourself for those people around you as well, which they want, by the way, they don’t want an overworked, stressed out, overwhelmed person, they want a productive, happy, giving or, you know, whomever, whatever your personality traits are, they want that great version of you around them as well.

So that’s something and it’s not an overnight mental shift to get to that place, I will be honest, but that’s something over time that a lot of people have started to recognize more that wait a minute, when I work on me, I’m also working on helping others around me. It’s a way to help others around me as well.

Jennifer: Yeah, that actually has helped me so much of when I’m out walking, and I feel myself teeter tottering on like, Oh, cut it short. I’m like, No, actually, while I’m out on my walk, I’ll think through, you know, whatever problem or whatever, as a coach, I’m helping a client with and I find that I’m like, wait, I’m way better. I’m actually doing I’m working for them by taking care of myself of like, taking this quiet time to actually like step aside, really think through the strategy.

And that really was a great way that it kind of helped me turn off some of the guilt and then just like stick to I’m doing my self-care. But while I’m out here walking, I can think through strategies, I can think through however we’re going to approach things. Are there any and that’s just a tip I want to share with everybody of just like, Hey, wait a second, taking care of me is actually working for them. So that way I can show up in a better way. And that was a great tip for me that helped to flip it off, but flip it off, switch it off, I should say.

Dr. Hammond: Okay

Jennifer: what are some other tips that you can share with our listeners on how to prioritize self care or bring it like into their day?

Dr. Hammond: Yeah, the other thing that I highly recommend people do is hopefully once a week is ideal, but is ask yourself three questions and this is something I found over time that we don’t do enough of for mental wellness. So, the three questions are number one, asking yourself, how am I doing?

Because it’s really easy to be worrying about everyone else around you and checking in with everyone else on your team, and work and life, your friend, your family, there’s a lot going on, we’re bombarded with information, and not checking in with ourselves. So, number one is to ask yourself, how am I doing? And be honest with yourself and it’s okay if your answer is like, I’m so stressed out or overwhelmed, I’m in a dark place, like whatever that is, just be honest with yourself.

The second question is to ask yourself, what do I need? That is emotionally, physically, spiritually, mentally, if you were to write, if you were to draw a box and have like four quadrants, almost physically, emotionally, spiritually, mentally, and really truly ask yourself, what do you need in each of those areas, which is very different depending on what season of your life you’re in and then the third question is to ask yourself, what step do I need to take today to improve my life? And again, baby steps count too.

If you’re like, you know what my step is, I need to start taking 60 seconds a day. Awesome. That’s your step. If your step is, I need to take a break today because I’m so overwhelmed, like I need a mental health day.  That’s your step. Like whatever your step is, is what’s right for you.

But it’s, it’s really the process of reflecting on those three things. And if that part that I mentioned that hopefully you can do weekly is too overwhelming, which is okay, then sometimes you need the help of a coach or a mental health professional, which is, there’s nothing wrong with taking that step.

Jennifer: Yeah, absolutely. I love this so much. And so how do you help somebody who I’d love those questions, by the way, just like the question about what do I need today? I’m like, I could just feel a shift in my body. Like, oh, okay, wait, I can actually give me what I need.

That’s so wonderful. So, I love those questions. And when you answer those questions and it’s like, hey, I really, really need a mental health day and often we will talk ourselves out of it. It’s like, I know what I need. I need a mental health day, but now here’s the 55 reasons why I’m not actually going to do that for myself. So how do you help somebody kind of transition into now turning that into an action that we actually took the mental health day?

Dr. Hammond: Yeah. And that’s, and that’s really great. And also very common, what you mentioned that sometimes we do know that we need a full day off, but we’re like, you know what, I can’t take a full day off because fill in the blank.

I have too much going on in the business or at work or my kids or whatever it is that you can’t take the full day. But, but how much time realistically could you give yourself? So maybe that particular day, it is not a full day, but it’s like you snuck somehow an hour in, which was like a big deal.

Then you celebrate that because it’s so funny. A lot of times when I talk to different communities about self-care and about mental wellness, I always check in with the audience. I’m like, you know, how do we think we’re doing here with self-care? And everyone’s always like, Oh, you know, so horrible and, you know, we need to make a lot of changes, but also, I find that we don’t give ourselves enough credit.

So, we have to celebrate instead of feeling guilty about the fact that I, Oh my God, I needed a mental health day. I didn’t take the mental health day. But if you took the hour that day for yourself, somehow, some way that counts too. So, wherever you’re at, we’re all at different mental points when it comes to self-care, but wherever you’re at, take the next step. Right and again, sometimes the mental health day might be a leap for somebody listening to this. So, it might be the hour, which is like big deal, like cool.

Right. So, it’s really finding those times though, and celebrating the steps that you’re starting to take. If you took 60 seconds and you have never taken a break for yourself for, you know, months that I would celebrate. Right. So, it’s, it’s celebrating the small wins too.

Jennifer: Oh, I love this so much. You know, years ago, I, in my coaching, I would ask my clients, what do you do for yourself to completely like reset and just get back to feeling like you and being you and for me, I have horses and so, when I spend time with the horse and I go out to the barn, I know it is so fun. And we just got my daughter, a horse too.

So now we have two horses so her and I can ride together because she just turned 15 and I’m like, those years are so rough. I wanted her and I to have something that we could connect on and it’s interesting that when she was 12, she said to me one day, she’s like, we were coming back from the barn and she’s like, mom, what is it about the barn that makes everything okay in the world? And I was like, it just is, you know, it just, I get it, honey.

I get it. Like, that’s like my solace and so when I want to reset, it’s funny because it was me and my son were talking this weekend. I’m like, okay, exercise goes first and my barn time goes second and I should know this, like I’m in the space, but it just sort of like hit me like, wait a second.

Those are the two things that go first and then I’m like diving in with clients and so those are the two things I’m like, no more, no more. But like going to the barn for me is like, it’s a reset. I’m not thinking about anything. I have to be present. I love that time and with my clients, like I’ve asked many of my clients, what do you do that just like really reconnects you ground you, it’s out of your head.  And it’s shocking to me how many people don’t have an answer to that question. And they say, I don’t know.

But I think it’s so important that you’ve got to have at least one thing in your life that just resets you and so I’m like, get out there, like start figuring it out and so would you like, like, would you agree with this? Like, do we need to have something that just completely resets us?

Dr. Hammond: Yes. And at least one thing, like you said, and, and it’s okay if you haven’t figured it out yet. But like you said, try different things to figure it out.

Because not everything like what I do for my self-care, my not for the next one. So, like, I have no desire to do that, right? Like, and it’s okay, it doesn’t have to be what your friend does, or your family member does, or your coworker does. It’s for you. Like, it’s really a space of reflection for you to work on if you don’t know the answer immediately for you to work on finding out what that thing is.

Because not only I mean, there’s plenty of mental health benefits for the reset, recharge, but also physically, you need that as well. Because especially for the business owners listening to this, I can totally relate just juggling different businesses, like, a lot of times we can get into like, fight or flight mode in our bodies, where we’re just like, what’s the next thing I got to do the to do list.

This is do this is coming up. Like, it’s so physically overwhelming on our bodies. So, when you find the thing for you, where you can, you’re like, not just mentally, but physically, reduce your stress level, if you will reduce your blood pressure, like calm your body down, that is also going to have benefits for you physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually and it just feels good, right to be in that space. But it really is important for your physical and mental health to find that reset, recharge. For me, it’s spending time in nature.

Like you were saying, like in the barn, like for me spending time in nature is just like, ah, like my Zen time to reconnect and just be grounded and just take some deep breaths. Because it’s busy, it’s busy and hectic, and we’re all busy. So, it’s really important to find that that thing that resets and recharges you.

Jennifer: Yeah, I love it. And I love what you said about it doesn’t have to be the same thing for all of us. My husband plays pickleball.

I’m like, not my game. But he loves it. And he goes and he plays and it’s social and he’s outside, you know, and it reconnects and it can be as simple as just being outside in nature. It doesn’t have to cost anything. So don’t think you have to go buy a horse.

You don’t they’re pricey. It’s my only expensive habit. But like you don’t, it doesn’t have to be something that you spend money on. It can literally be just as simple as a walk in the woods or by a lake or just sitting on a rock, like whatever that is for you. But I think it is so important to really figure that out. If you can’t answer the question of what do you do that just completely resets you and grounds you like maybe this is a great opportunity to start exploring some different things and figure this out for yourself so that you can bring more of that into your day to day.

Dr. Hammond: Yeah. And it’s interesting too, that you brought that up. Because what I found is for many of us, we have to unlearn the things that we were taught in our childhood, which is probably why for many of us, it’s like, what do you do to reset recharge? I don’t know, because we weren’t trained that that was okay.

Like, I have a lot of conversations with myself, my son just turned 12. And we have a lot of conversations about self-care and mental health and mental wellness, which I definitely don’t recall growing up, it was just a different time. So, it was just a go, go, go mentality. So many of us now are like, wait, what reset recharge? Like, what’s that? Like, we’re right, we’re, you know, just be a machine. But it’s like, no, because you’re going to break down and you’re going to hit burnout. If you don’t have something in place to take that pause that you need.

Jennifer: I agree. Like, there was no talk of when I grew up of like, self-care.

Dr. Hammond: I don’t remember if there was, I don’t remember.

Jennifer: Yeah, I don’t remember it either. I remember like, do your chores, take care of your sisters, or you’re gonna get beat when I get home. Like, that’s it.

Dr. Hammond: Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Jennifer: Yeah. Right. Very different way that we grew up.

Dr. Hammond: Yeah,

Jennifer: very different. But these days with so many things on us, I just feel like burnout is such a relevant topic. So many of us have experienced but it’s so preventable. It’s so preventable. And honestly, it’s one of the things that we can control. There’s so many things outside of our control. But our self-care is something that is 100% within our control to do something about

Dr. Hammond: Yes, absolutely. And the other thing too, with this whole process is it doesn’t, you don’t have to do this alone, necessarily. So again, if whether you need the help of a mental health professional, or you need a coach, I’ve had many different business coaches for different things, different reasons. I’ve been to therapy before when I was in graduate school, like, or even a trusted friend or family member, like there’s other people who can help you on this journey of life.

Like you don’t have to do all of this alone. Because a lot of times I found that people feel alone in what they’re going through. But that’s actually 99% of the not really true.

There’s so like millions of people that are going through what you’re going through. But it does feel like you’re isolated, like you’re all alone. But the reality is, there’s many other people that can relate to what you’re going through. Maybe not exactly. But there’s also a lot of people who are out here to support you and whatever it is, wherever you’re at in this mental health journey, and mental wellness journey.

Jennifer: Agree completely like the lies that we tell ourselves. Oh, yes. We just lie all the time.  Like I’m all by myself. I’m in this alone. Nobody can help me. It’s just bullshit and we just lie so, when you can start to really recognize, I think the lie that you’re telling yourself and step into the truth because the truth is, you’re not alone.

There are so many people that live for the opportunity to help you like in these times of crisis. There’s just you know, and if you can just align more with the truth and get out of your head. I think that’s just such a really important first step.

Dr. Hammond: Yeah, well, I have it in my next book about negative self-talk, because unfortunately, it can be really powerful. And like you mentioned a lot, like just because you think something does not mean that it’s true.

Especially if you’re depressed, especially if you’re anxious, like you will tell yourself so many things about yourself that are absolutely not true. Like you’re not good enough, you’re not pretty enough, you’re not fill in the blank, like you’re not sufficient, like all these things that are not true, you’re not lovable.

Like there’s so many lies that we tell ourselves, which is why it can be really helpful to have supportive people around you who will tell you the truth and the strengths and the good things, the good things that you do have about you versus living in that world of negative self-talk, which can spiral into some darker mental places that we don’t want to get into and spiral into more burnout.

Jennifer: Yeah, absolutely. And I think this is one of the things I’ve worked on a lot in my own personal journey is asking myself when that self-talk comes up, is this truth or is this a lie? And really, you know, is it true? Is it really true? Is it true? Byron Katie, love Byron Katie, her four questions. And the first one is, is it true? And second one, is it absolutely true? And there’s so much power in those questions.

And I find that when I catch myself in a lie, and then I align with truth or choose truth instead, it literally quiets the mind. It just quiets so much of that chatter. And I really feel like that we fuel the lies.

So, we tell ourselves we’re not good enough, we’re not pretty enough, we’re not whatever enough. And then we got to keep that going, we got to make ourselves right.

So, we keep it going, we keep it going and we spend so much time and energy fueling the lie. And then it just makes us feel like crap. And then our brains are just on fire and when we can identify like this is this is a lie, I’m telling myself and going forward, I choose truth. It literally just quiets like so many things, at least for me, it just quiet so many things. And it’s just a really, really powerful thing to, you know, cut through all this crap so that we can really just be happier, you know, do make the choices that we want to make not be all burned out and crazy stress machines.

Dr. Hammond: Yeah. yeah. And something that really helps is like, to almost like zoom out because it’s so easy to zoom into your current situation at this particular time and whatever it is, maybe something’s not working and it’s like, oh, I’m a failure or I didn’t do this right or you’re just so laser focused on that particular thing. But when you really zoom out and you look at your whole entire life, I just read something recently about reminding ourselves that things that happen to us are chapters in our story.

They’re not the whole larger story, but we can get really caught up in this one particular part of our journey and then we stress out, we get burnt out, we get depressed, we get anxious about it and we don’t like take a step back to be like, wait a minute, like 99% of the time,  you were fine in this particular situation,  but the one thing, right, we get stuck on sometimes. So yeah, it’s definitely a journey.

Jennifer: Oh, so great, so great. I could talk about this stuff all day with my new Gator fan friend.

Dr. Hammond: I love it, I love it.

Jennifer: Yes, Gator fanatic, yes. Oh, fanatic, I love it, I love it. Okay, so share with everybody because obviously you’re doing amazing work in the world. So where can everybody find you? Where can they go buy your books? Just share where everybody can find you.

Dr. Hammond: Yeah, so the best place is my website. It’s drnekeshiahammon.com, D-R-N-E-K-E-S-H-I-A, hammon.com or information about my new book coming out is at mindsettrainingbook.com.

Jennifer: Oh, I love that so much.  All right, and we will put that in the show notes so that you guys can all go look it up, grab the book.

I know I’m sure it’s gonna be absolutely amazing. Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for being on the show with us today and everybody who’s listening, you guys, it’s great to listen. I love it, but there’s so many takeaways from today’s show.

So, take something, just one thing, take a baby step because this is Happy Productive and it doesn’t really, you don’t get the result if you don’t actually take some action.  So just take a baby step, pick one thing from today’s show, (implement it into your life and then obviously just go from there and thank you. Thank you again for being here with me today. Great show, great topic.

Dr. Hammond: Thank you.

Jennifer: All right, that’s it, you guys. Get out there and have a happy, productive day, y’all.  Bye.

I hope you found today’s episode of the Happy Productive podcast inspiring.

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