Episode 147: Toxic Leadership and the Cost of Success: How Women Lose Themselves Climbing the Ladder – Transcript

In this episode, Jennifer sits down with Megan Bozzuto, Interim CFO of Professional Diversity Network and former President of the International Association of Women. Together, they discuss leading within toxic corporate cultures, the silent sacrifices women make to succeed, and how to reclaim authenticity in environments that punish vulnerability. Megan shares insights from her 20+ years in global leadership, marketing, and finance, offering lessons on resilience, mental health, authentic leadership, and staying true to your values at the top. A powerful conversation for anyone looking to lead differently and authentically.

Transcript

Jennifer: Hey, hey, a brand-new episode of the happy productive podcast is about to begin. It’s time to be inspired by simple and actionable solutions for you and your business. If you’re an established entrepreneur, or just laying down the first brick of your future empire, the mantra is the same.

We will flip any failure into a positive and use it to our advantage.

This show is all about turning coal into diamonds. With the right plan and mindset, anything is possible.

I’m Jennifer Dawn, your host, business coach and founder of Best Planner Ever. And I’m here to help you achieve all your ambitious goals.

Success is closer than you think.

Let’s do this.

Jennifer: Hey, hey, everybody, welcome to a new episode of the happy productive podcast. I’m really excited for my guest today, Miss Megan Bazzuto. Megan, welcome to the show.

Megan: Hi, Jennifer. Thank you so much for having me.

Jennifer: Absolutely. Oh my gosh, you guys. So, before the show, Megan and I, Megan’s in Boston, I’m in New York, and we were both like, it is so cold, but neither of us, it’s October, we’re not turning on our heaters.

Because neither of us are ready to admit that winter is coming. I sound like Game of Thrones, winter is coming. Hopefully not for 10 years.

Well, you guys, I know you’re going to love our conversation today. Megan is the president of IAW, which is the International Association of Women. And she comes to us with such a great, diverse background in finance and marketing. And we’re going to dive into some really, really great topics. Megan, talk to us just a little bit about your journey, your story. How did you get to be where you are today?

Megan: Yes. So I laughed when I heard you ask this question to somebody else, because I’m like, well, my story could take up a whole 20 minutes. I’ve had such an interesting career. I started, I graduated from college more than 20 years ago now with an accounting degree and thought, okay, I’m going to work in accounting.

I love numbers. And started out in an internal audit role where I got to travel all over the world and on the company’s dime and it was, I loved the work, I loved the travel, I loved the experience, but you can’t do that forever.

So, then I ended up in a corporate finance role and suddenly it was like, yeah, no, I don’t like this at all. So left that company, went to a smaller company, stuck with audit, then found out I was pregnant with my first child and said, this is going to be really challenging. My husband at the time was an executive. He traveled all the time.

He was not available to help with anything related to childcare and around that same time, he called me one day and he says, well, I know you’ll probably say no to this, but I was offered a job in Shanghai. And I said, oh, well, does that mean I can quit my job? Because I wasn’t super happy in my job. And I was feeling really overwhelmed at this.

Okay. I’m going to be a mom and have to balance all of this. And I said, maybe we have the baby.

We spend some time in Shanghai. I don’t have, I don’t have the pressure of working. So we did it and looking back now, I’m like, wow, we were crazy. It was supposed to be 18 months in Shanghai. It ended up being about 18 months in Shanghai.

I moved to Shanghai with a four-month-old. I stayed in the U.S. to have the baby and then I got pregnant again while we were in Shanghai and then he was offered another job in Dubai and I said, nope, I’m never moving to the Middle East. Well, we went, we visited some friends that lived there, we explored and I was hooked and it was not the Middle East I was expecting. So, we ended up in Dubai for three years and around that time, my parents had bought a small business. So, I jumped in to help them with some digital marketing because I could do that from abroad and digital marketing was just, it was brand new.

Like it was just starting and, and so I kind of learned as I went along and helped them because I just wanted something to keep me busy. We then moved back to the U.S.

We moved to Connecticut and I was bored. I’m like, well, how I have two small kids, they’re preschool age, but how do I get myself back into work? I miss the work and so I ended up finding a freelance job doing marketing support, which I never saw myself, like I had an accounting degree, right. But I loved the creativity. I loved the technology. I loved the digital platforms and so I started working for somebody else, picking up some, supporting some of his projects. Then I find out I’m pregnant again.

Then my husband gets relocated to Providence. So, I dropped all of that. I said, okay, I need to pause for a moment, figure out what I’m doing.

Once we got settled in, in the Boston area, I started talking to people. It’s so funny. I was at a, it was at a mom’s event and somebody said, well, what do you do? I’m like, well, I’m not working right now, but I was doing some marketing consulting and she’s like, oh, I have a friend who needs your help and I said, okay.

So, I met with a friend and I had a new client and then another friend and then another friend of a friend and so I found my myself into this place where I was offering freelance marketing support for small businesses, loved what I did and then one day we were out to dinner and a friend of a friend was like, oh, I just started this new job. I’m going to need some; I’m going to need some support. It sounds like you can do what I need. I’m going to call you and it ended up being IAW.

So, I ended up coming on board about 10 hours a week doing just marketing services and quickly I fell in love with the company, right? How can you not love being in a place where you support women all day long? But the more time, the more I picked up more and more work. So, my, my workload increased, which was fine and then one day I said, can I see the PNL? Like something’s not making sense to me. I’d like to see the PNL and I’d like to dig into some of the finances and they sent me this stuff and I poked a lot of holes and then there were some organizational changes and organizational changes and I just kept taking on more and more until one day I was like, I’m leading this whole thing.

I never saw myself being the leader of a company. Right. But gradually stepped into this role and have I still to this day, like the IAW community has provided such a foundation for my own personal and professional success that it’s very core to who I am. It’s very much a part of me and so that thinking back, I never saw myself leading a women’s organization, but I think about my earlier career and where I could have so used an organization like IAW both because I I’ve walked to the career side. I’ve walked the business owner side and there’s a lack of resource for women who, who want to excel. And, and so now I get to build all those resources and bring women together and it’s, it’s fun. I love what I do.

Jennifer: Yeah, absolutely. And I do think that there, there can be a lack of resources for, okay, I’m going to say this, everybody, some people are going to take offense and that’s okay.

I’m okay with it. I’ve been a member of different women’s organizations and some of them are filled with mean girls and they have a lot of ego. They’re shaming.

They’re not nice and even the most successful women in some of these organizations are real assholes. I mean, just they’re not nice people.

And it really turned me off to a lot of these kinds of groups, but I’m a member of IAW. Everybody in the group is absolutely fantastic. And I think that if you are a nice girl and you want a place to be supported and encouraged and network like IAW is such a great place for that.

Megan: I appreciate hearing that because that is one of the things that is core to what I believe about what we need to be. And it’s really at the end of the day, can we just be nice to each other?  Right. I’ll show up on calls and have five different career coaches.

It’s not a comp… There’s plenty, plenty to go around. We don’t have to compete with each other. Let’s collaborate, share best practices and help each other elevate.

It’s as simple as that. But I think you do get people that show up intimidated and they can’t play nice because they’re afraid to play nice and so when we see it happening, we pull it aside, right? We address it because in my mind, mean girls aren’t welcome here.

If you’re going to show up with that attitude or that personality, we’re going to have a conversation about it because I don’t want people to walk away from a meeting going, oh, that’s so picky.

Jennifer: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. We actively fire mean girls and mean boys. Frankly, I won’t have them on my team. I won’t have them as clients and life is too short to act like that and it was so interesting to me before I had my coaching (practice, I was the president of a women’s networking group. And in the group, they had what they called the six-figure club and the seven-figure club. And six-figure were six-figure business owners.

And that’s actually the one that I led and was the much larger group. And then they had the seven-figure club, which was a very small group of women who had crossed the seven-figure mark. And if anybody knows the stats, like less than 2% of women ever crossed the seven-figure mark in business.

So, it’s definitely quite an accomplishment. And I remember so many of the women really aspired to be in that seven-figure club, which is wonderful. I went on a weekend retreat with them and I’m not kidding when I say, these were the meanest women I have ever been around. And it so turned me off. And I remember thinking, oh my gosh, I’m going back to my six-figure women that are fantastic and wonderful and loving and supportive.

And so, I just want everybody who’s out there to know, don’t get turned off by going after that big goal. If you came across another woman who had crossed that mark, I’ve crossed that mark multiple times. I’m not a jerk.

There are great, nice women out there like Megan, who have crossed that mark. And I just want to send that little love out there to anybody who’s been burned and feeling like, man, there’s not an association or a group of women that are going to get me, understand me, love me, support me wherever I’m at. But IAW is all about that, which I think is just so important because why can’t we just love each other and get along and be nice?

Megan: Yeah. It’s interesting because there’s a part of me that’s like, okay, to reach that point, do you have to be a little cutthroat? You have to be a little above and beyond, right?

But I also know from my perspective, I feel like as I hit certain milestones, I have an obligation to turn around and find other women that I can pull into the same milestones, right? I get so much fulfillment out of lifting up and seeing other women succeed. And so, I think you can be both, right? You can have the drive and the passion and the commitment, but you also can have the ability to look around the room and say, okay, I’m going to help you. I want you to be in this club too and then when you’re in that club, shifting the mentality, right? Showing up and continuing to be the nice girl, even when there’s mean girls in the room, showing them how it’s possible.

Jennifer: It’s totally possible. And I think to get to that level, I know to get to that level for me, it’s been about really two things, resilience, like resilience, resilience, and about my own personal, my own professional growth of doing my inner work, working on me a hundred percent and I know that you also talk a lot about this resilience and professional growth and so is there for you, was there like a time in your life where resilience really played a key role in your success?

Megan: Yeah. I think throughout my career, there’s been a few times. The earliest incident I remember was shortly after I started my career, I was working for a large organization and I walked into a meeting and I was the only woman in the room.

I was very young. I had just graduated college and the guy in charge looked at me and said, what could you possibly tell us about this subject? And I just remember feeling, Oh, right. I like talk about mean guys. Like he can and so, I had to spend a month doing an audit of his team. And every day he showed up with the, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re too young.

You have no experience. Little did he know I did have experience. I’d studied the system they were using in college. So, I really leaned heavy on that personal development piece of, I do know some of it. I walked a very fine line of respect while getting my job done. And I remember calling my mom that day and saying, I’m quitting. I can’t do this. I cannot, I, I, I can’t right.  I’m in tears. He made me feel like crap. And she said, Megan, you’re better than this. Just keep showing up, get through this month and I got through the month and I, by the end of it, I was enjoying my job again.

So we were okay. And I came back to the same location about two months later and I ran into the same guy and he approached me and said, I was so impressed with you. I’d like to offer you a job.

Jennifer: Wow.

Megan: And I thought, wow, that’s like, we talk about, often we talk about resilience. We talk about these big life events, right? We talk about the things that, that really push us. And it was more of an act of just personal resilience, right? It was showing up, even though he was making my life difficult. As I got older, I think it got easy, more experience kind of helps with continuing to show up in those places. I’ve had a number of things happen in my personal life that I’ve had to continue to show up.

There’s days I have to show up for the IAW community on video. I often say at one point, it was like the floor fell out beneath me. My, over the last two years, I’ve navigated divorce. I have three young kids. So, dealing with all of that, but prior to us separating, my ex-husband had a massive stroke and that really rocked the foundation of our entire family and I, for a long time, I showed up in this space of, I remember my office was in the basement. I had no windows. I’d go down there.

I’d close the door and just pretend as if that like nothing was happening. Right. And then I remember the first time I shared that I was going through a divorce and the number of people who reached out to me after that event through LinkedIn, through Instagram, through anything and said, I’ve got you, you can do this.

Let me know if you need support. And I thought, wow, that’s the power of putting yourself out there and sharing some of that. Because I think resilience is not necessarily something we’re born with.

I think there are people who have, they’re less responsive to things, right? So, it’s a little easier for them to overcome challenges, but there are skills and tools we can put in place so that when life gets lifey or where we encounter the mean girl or we have a big obstacle, we can say, okay, I can do this. Right. It’s a lot of it is in your head. It’s that growth mindset. But also, for me, a big part is having a community of people around me that I can say, this really sucks. I need some help.

Jennifer: Yeah. Yeah. I think it’s so important to be able to do that.

I too have been divorced and I remember one of my very best friends, when I said I’m going to get a divorce, she wouldn’t even say the word divorce in like her regular voice. She would whisper it. She would be like; you’re getting a divorce and she basically ditched me. She sided with my husband. What’s he going to do at the time?

My husband at the time, what’s he going to do? Who’s going to take care of him? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and so I love it though, that when you were vulnerable and women supported you and reached out to you, because I think so many times we’ve been through this where we’ve been shamed because of whatever is going on in our lives.

And I just love that you were strong enough and confident enough to show up, say, this is what I’m navigating to be real, to be honest, to be vulnerable. And then as a result, you were supported because I just, I don’t know and so much of the rah-rah and stuff that goes out there on online today, I think it’s just so important to be our real authentic selves, which you were. And how beautiful to get that support from the community.

Megan: Yeah. One of the things that triggered me to start showing up more authentically in the community, we were on a team call, a call with all of our chapter leaders, and it was in the middle of COVID and we were talking about expectations and basically said, if this is too much right now, we get it. I get that we’re asking, we have asks, we want things to continue to operate.

We want to continue to support our members. But I also know that life just throws some major curve balls. And somebody put in the chat, I’m really struggling, I lost my job and my kids are crazy and I have to homeschool and somebody actually spoke up on my behalf and she said, I don’t want you to think that Megan is sitting there without the same challenges. Megan has three kids.

Megan has a husband who is not able to help right now because the nature of his stroke, he’d gone back to work and work required 110% of him and so he would go upstairs, he’d close the door and he’d just be head down working all day. And I had three young kids and I think light bulbs went off like, oh, she’s not just sitting there in that corner of her office.

Her world is not calm and collected, right? That we all have our things. And at the end of the day, it’s each person’s responsibility to prioritize and accept what you can and cannot do and it’s okay to say, my life is just not in a place where I can support this right now.

It’s okay to walk away. It’s okay. I often say, I talk to a lot of people that volunteer to help lead our chapters and they’ll have to step down for whatever reason and I remember one day, somebody was like, my business is just crazy and I can’t do this anymore and I was like, congratulations. I’m still going to support you.

This is not, we’re not breaking up. I’m not mad at you. I’m going to celebrate that, that your business has taken off to a point where it’s too busy, right? That’s growth for you. I love that for you. And I think as long as we’re being honest with ourselves and honest with others that it can work.

Jennifer: I agree completely. We have a policy at Jennifer Dawn coaching. We have a few policies, Megan. One of them is fit though, which is figure it the F out, like whatever has come up, like we figure it out, but we also are very, we strongly believe in, we love them in and we love them out and we do not care what we care, but you know what I mean? Like when we’re welcoming a new client in, or when a client is like, they’re good, they don’t need us anymore. Wonderful. We love them in, we love them out and that’s what we’re here to do. We’re doing our job. So, I love that you guys embrace that as well.

It doesn’t have to be gross and yicky when people are ready to go to that next level or they have to step down. So I just, I love that you’re doing that. I believe that to come from that kind of a place of love, authenticity, to be able to be okay with somebody, you know, stepping down or leaving the organization.

I think that the key is that we’ve done our own inner work and we feel confident in ourselves in order to be able to do that. Talk to me a little bit about just your own journey along of professional growth. Like how did you get to a place where you’re okay with. Hey, somebody’s stepping down in my organization and not taking that personally or turning it into something that’s gross and yicky.

Megan: Yeah, that’s a great question. So, it, I was thinking this morning as I was prepping for this podcast two years ago, if you had asked me to do this, I would have been a nervous wreck. I would have said, I need to know every question you’re going to ask me.

I need to be overly prepared this morning. I said, Oh, I have this podcast and we’re going to have a conversation. Right? And anything she asks me; I’m going to be able to answer.

I think that we, we grow when we put ourselves through things, right? We have to get a little uncomfortable before we can step into something and say, okay, I’m better at this. I’m still not great. I’m still not perfect.

I’m better investing in our own development. Me with the being in a good place where I can say, okay, you’re leaving the organization. It’s not a reflection of me. It’s not something I did. It’s where you’re at. There’s been a lot of therapy in my life.

I’ve based, because of the things I’ve gone through personally, I, I’m a huge advocate of mental health support. And so, I talk through a lot of things, but it’s also continuing to show up the way that I would want to be treated. So, if I was having to leave because of a personal reason or because life got busy, I don’t want somebody to say, well, good riddance there, there’s the door, right? Why? So, it’s that same, like we say this all the time, right? Treat others the way that we want to be treated and so, it’s really just a matter of, I’m a nice person.

My when I think about my personal brand, I want people to know me as a nice person. It doesn’t mean I say yes to everything. It doesn’t mean that I’m going to drop everything and do everything for everybody else, but it’s really the way I treat people with respect and saying we can have hard conversations and still be friends. We can support each other, even if we’re not in the same room together all the time. Right.

Jennifer: Yeah. Yeah. I think it’s so important. You said such a great thing about having the therapy and it doesn’t even matter. I went through four years of trauma therapy, a hundred percent. It changed my life things that I didn’t even know that I was acting on and limiting beliefs and fears and things that I’d carried since childhood that I just, you know, was a survivor and I’m pushing through and I’m fine and all that stuff.

But you get to a point in life where you’re like, Oh, I better actually feel this shit because it just keeps coming back. And the common denominator is me. So, I’m a huge fan and whether it doesn’t even matter whether it’s a mentor, it’s a coach, it’s a therapist, it’s all of those. It doesn’t even matter. But taking that time, I think to develop yourself, work on yourself.

That’s really where you get to that place where you realize, wait, this isn’t about me. This is about them and I can authentically support them through whatever that journey is.

Megan: And that’s been a big piece of me getting comfortable showing up publicly as well is it’s not about me. It’s not about the way I look or what I’m wearing or even necessarily what I say, right? It’s about the impact I’m having on other people. And so I have fallen into this place where if my story or my experience can help somebody else not have some of those same challenges.

I’m all for it, right? It’s so often this doesn’t happen as much anymore, but I leave a meeting and say, why didn’t I say that? Why? Like I have all these ideas now, right? And I think I lived in a place of self-doubt, low confidence and improving the way I see myself and the way I believe in myself has helped in so many ways. And so doing that work of really honing in on what makes you powerful and unique and special so that you can shine and share that with the world.

Jennifer: Yeah. And just being here and just sharing that today, I know is going to give other people confidence to do that work on themselves. I’ve always been a very confident person.

I will show up in public. I don’t care. I don’t care how many people are in the room. It’s never bothered me. But even as I’ve gotten to different levels of success and blockers that I’ve had, I’m like, wait a second, this, when I go way, way, way deep down, this is actually a confidence issue. So, and I’m only sharing this because if you’re listening and you’re like, Oh, I have confidence issues.

Great, but if you’re like, I don’t have confidence issues, I’m like, don’t be surprised if you, you, because that was me. It’s like, I don’t have any confidence issues. It’s like, wait, actually I do. And they’re disguised and they’re deep down in there. So just, if you’re hearing this, please hear it.

Like it can be anywhere. And if we can do our work, you can too, just have some courage, get in there, start doing the work on yourself. I found that when I stopped pointing the finger of blame at everybody else and started to look at me, that’s when the real growth, that’s where the real transformation really happened.

Because you know, it’s so easy to just be like all these things, people, places, all this stuff, this just needs to change so that I feel better. And it’s like, no, I actually need to make me feel better. Cause as we navigate this journey in life and business ownership stuff is going to happen and it will be completely outside of our control. But the only thing we can control is our reaction, our response, and who we are through it.

Megan: Absolutely. Absolutely. I think so often we look to the external things that can be changed that are not our responsibility. But at the end of the day, when you accept responsibility and do everything in your power to just get it done, that’s where you’re going to see the magic happen, right? There’s no magic wand. There’s no easy button.

There’s no quick fixed result. If you want to be successful, you got to dive in and do the work and you have to stop looking to blame or position others to take responsibility for things that, that you probably can control. And if something’s not working because somebody else is not working, then move along, figure it out. Anyway, I love that. I’m going to write that one down. The fitfo is going to come into our terminology.

Jennifer: When we have a team meeting and we’re like, okay, we don’t know. I’m like, all right, girls, we got a fitfo this sucker. And everybody gets a chuckle and we do and it’s great. It’s so funny. I think it was staples that had like the easy button and I’m like, they should have a, that was not easy button, but like I did it, but it was not easy and you ding the, that was not easy button, right? There’s a button in my office somewhere that one of my kids gave me that is similar to that. I don’t know. They take it all the time and play with it now.

Megan: But yeah, it’s the, I think that mentality of easy button, like there’s no easy button. If it’s easy, it’s probably, it’s not going to be sustainable or it’s not going to be everlasting, right? You might get, like, I think about building a brand on social media, right? You might have a post go viral and that might happen on accident and that might feel a little bit easy, but after that, is it going to be easy to maintain? Are you going to be able to replicate it? Are you going to be able to do it again? Are you going to be able to sustain whatever kind of visibility that gives you? There’s no easy button, unfortunately.

Jenifer: Unfortunately. Well, we’re almost out of time, Megan, but I really want to give a few minutes of time to tell us about IAW. Tell us about the work that you’re doing. If anybody has more questions or wants to know about the organization, just tell us a little bit more about this amazing organization that you lead.

Megan: Yeah, sure. So IAW is a women’s networking group, right? But I often say it’s hard to put into one word what IAW is because it’s a community. So we have members from (27:47) primarily the US, but we do have some international members as well.

We have networking events that happen throughout our local chapters in person, but we also have a massive virtual component where we do events a month. But if events aren’t your thing, that’s okay. We have a resource library where every week we publish new resources that help with all those little things that come up along the way.

There’s also a online community where you can post messages and chat with other members about problems you’re having. One of the things that I love about IAW is often we show up in a place of saying, how can we support you? We make it easy to share your, we call it share your ask because so often we don’t want to share an ask. We don’t want to say this is hard or this is where I have a problem and so we encourage people to dive into those conversations and find a place where you can say, this is what I need today.

This is what’s going to help me. And I might not have the answer. I might not have the thing you need, but I’m a pretty good network and I love making connections. And so, it’s really a community that helps you be your best self and helps to set you up for whatever success is for you. In your show opener, you say something to the effect of success is closer than you think and that resonated with me because I feel like with IAW, it’s so true. Success is closer than you think. And we’re going to help you take that final step to get to whatever it is you’re trying to get to.

Jennifer: Oh, very beautiful. Megan, where can people go to find more information about you? IAW, where can they find you?

Megan: Yep. So our website is iawomen.com, but if you have questions, if you’re looking at it, like, is this the right fit? Connect with me on LinkedIn.

My, my URL is just megboz, M-E-G-B-O-Z-Z. I’m sure there’ll be LinkedIn show notes, but connect with me, send me a message. Tell me you, you heard me on Jennifer’s podcast and either I can give you a call to talk about what membership is.

I have a team of people that can call to talk about membership is. We have three different levels of membership tailored to where you are in your journey. And I will tell you, I’ve seen some organizations that are heavy on the sales pitch, heavy on the join, join, join, join, join.

I want to be heavy on the, is this right fit? How can we support you and make sure that you’re going to be able to put in the time and the work? Because it’s just like a gym membership, right? If you sign up for the gym, but then you never walk through the door, guess what?

Jennifer: Yeah.

Megan: You’re not getting the benefits and so it’s similar, right? There’s no magic button. You do have to show up in the community. You do have to access the resources, but I can tell you, I’ve seen tremendous success for the women who show up consistently and participate. I’m seeing such amazing things come out of them and I love that.

Jennifer: Yeah. That’s so beautiful.

Megan: Yeah. Connect with me on LinkedIn. Send me a message. I can, I will give your listeners a discount. I have a hundred-dollar discount code for your listeners as well. So just connect with me and we’ll make it happen.

Jennifer: Beautiful and we will put all of Megan’s information in the show notes. Megan Absolutely. Megan, thank you for being here with me today. It’s so funny. Well, two years ago, if you had said, Jennifer, tell me every question you’re going to ask, I would have been like, I don’t know, Megan, because guess what? I’m just going to ask you stuff on the fly. Cause that’s how we do it here.

Megan: I have learned that the best conversations happen on the fly. When we’re, when we’re overly scripted, we are not our authentic selves.

We, I think if somebody is considering putting themselves out there, it’s okay to be a little scripted when you start, right? Start with where you’re comfortable, but trust the process and know that when you show up as your unscripted authentic self, that’s where the connection is going to happen. That’s where people are going to say, oh I want to hear more. I want to know more about her, so.

Jennifer: I agree a hundred percent and what a great tidbit to leave everybody with. Thank you again, Megan, for being here with me today, everybody. I know that there was so many things that we talked about today, but I really want to encourage you just pick one thing from today’s show and just take action on it. Like do something about it, whatever it is for you that really resonated with you most take action because that’s where you’re going to actually get the result.
All right. That’s it for today’s show. Everybody get out there and have a happy, productive day y’all. Bye.

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